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Subject: LOGOS WORD VS RHEMA WORD
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talkmore 31.07.08 - 12:23pm
Understand (prophecy) and (personal) prophecy *
festus36 4.08.08 - 02:16pm
Tank u talkmore 4 d topic. U will do d forum a great deal of good if u could expand it so as to bring clearly to light ur focus. *
talkmore 12.08.08 - 07:23pm
Im coming very soon dont worry be paitent *
talkmore 12.08.08 - 11:49pm
In its most broad meaning, prophecy is simply God communicating His thoughts and intents to mankind. When a true prophecy is given, the Holy Spirit inspires someone to communicate God's pure and exact words to the individual or group for whom they are intended. lt is delivered without any additions oi subtractions by the one prophesying, including any applications or interpretations suggested by the one speaking. To be most effective, it must also be delivered in God's timing and with the proper spirit or attitude. The prophetic message is usually given vocally. But it may also be written down or acted out symbolically. Prophecy may come to a person as God speaks directly to him, or the lord may use another person to convey the message. *
talkmore 13.08.08 - 12:13am
THE BIBLE AS PROPHECY: In this sense the whole Bible can rightly be called prophecy-- that is, God communicating His thoughts and intents to mankind. The entire Scripture is one inspired revelation of God's mind, will, and word communicatem to man and written on paper: [All scripture is given by inspiration of God....] (2 Tim 3:16). [For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man, but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit] (2 Pet 1:21. see also Dt. 6:32; Rev 1). THE BIBLE IS GOD'S COMPLETE REVELATION TO MAN. These inspired words were gathered into sixty-six books and canonized into the scriptures, the Word of God, the Holy Bible. *
talkmore 13.08.08 - 12:34am
This prophetic Word is thus complete. lt is perfect, fully sufficient to bring all the revelation of God that we can comprehend and appropriate. No further prophetic communication from God is to be added to it and none may be used to subtract from the Bible. Any truly prophetic word given today must therefore be in full agreement with the spirit and context of the Bible. lf this is the case, then, many will ask why we need prophecy at all in the twentieth-century church. The answer to this question requires first of all that we understand the meaning of two important words from Biblical Greek. LOGOS - RHEMA *
talkmore 13.08.08 - 10:55am
Two Greek words in the New testament are translated by the English term (word): Logos and rhema. Greek scholars and Biblical theologians have debated about whether or not these words are synonymous, but many believe that the inspired writers chose each word to express a different meaning. The interpretation we present here is more consistent with those scholars who are walking in present truth. When we use the word (Logos) we refer to the [Word Logos of truth] the scriptures the Holy Bible (2 Tim 2:15). St. John also speak of the (Word) that was in the beginning, that was with God, that was God, and that was made flesh and dwelt among us-- none other than our Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus was the eternal Word revealed and manifest in mortal flesh (John 1:1, 14) *
talkmore 13.08.08 - 11:09am
The Logos of God. This Logos Word is settled forever in heaven. Earth and heaven my pass away, but this Word will never pass away. That part of Scripture wich is a description of the Word personage, character, plan, and eternal purpose will never fail, for it is the very expression of God Himself. The Logos is the same as God: the same yesterday, today, and forever. *
talkmore 13.08.08 - 11:17am
God's Logos, is creative, self-fulfilling, powerful, true, inerrant, infallible, complete, and life-giving. lt is trustworth and sure. Any seeming failure or inconsistency in it due to our failure in understanding, believing, responding, obeying, and seeking to fulfill that unfailing word. *
talkmore 13.08.08 - 11:38am
The Logos-- God Eternal Standard. The Logos is the consistent, absolute standard by wich all other expressions, concepts, revelations, doctrines, preachings, and prophecies are measured. The Logos reveals God and portrays His eternal principles and decrees. Neither angel, nor human, nor devil, nor any other power in the whole universe can keep the Logos from eternally being and becoming all it proclaims. *
talkmore 13.08.08 - 01:31pm
Rhema--Word. The rhema, on the other hand, might be called (a word from the Word.) W.E Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words explains it this way: [Rhema denotes thdt wich is spoken, what is uttered in speech and writing: in the singular, a word. The significance of rhema (as distinct from Logos) is exemplified in the injunction to take the sword of the Spirit wich is the word (rhema) of God] Eph 6:17. Here the reference is not to the whole Bible as such, but to the individual scripture wich the Spirit brings to our remembrance for use in time of need, a prerequisite being the regular storing of the mind with scripture (W.E Vine, An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, Nashville, Tennessee, Nelson, 1939, p. 1242). *
talkmore 13.08.08 - 01:56pm
A rhema, then, is that timely, Holy Spirit-inspired Word from the Logos that brings life, power, and faith to perform and fulfill it: [Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word rhema of God] (Rom 10:17). The rhema must be received with faith by the hearer in ordeq for it to fulfill its mission. *
talkmore 13.08.08 - 09:26pm
Logos Prophecy vs. Rhema Prophecy. The Logos never changes nor fails, but the Bible is full of rhemas given to individual wich failed to come to pass. Actually, however, in these cases it was not the rhema of the Lord wich failed, but rather the people who heard it failed to understand, interpret, believe, obey, respond, wait upon, or act upon it according to God's will and way. This is the meaning of 1 Corinthians 13:8 [Prophecies shall fail]. When God speaks directly or through a prophet to a person or a nation, and they fail to respond appropriately, the prophecy may not come to pass. *
endtimes 13.08.08 - 09:41pm
I agree with talkmore.
Logos means the whole revelation - the complete idea and concept. In our study, it is God's Word, the complete picture of what God wants us to know. We have found out that JESUS CHRIST is the WORD that became FLESH. That is, Jesus is the EXPREQ IMAGE OF GOD who was manifest in the world. If we had seen Him we had seen the Father. *
endtimes 13.08.08 - 09:49pm
His name is also the LOGOS. (Matt 5:17-20) (Luke 12:8) - to confess the Word is to confess Christ. Jesus Christ is the LOGOS that became flesh and dwelt among us. *
talkmore 13.08.08 - 09:56pm
To summarize: When we use the term (Logos), we mean the scriptures as a whole. When we use (rhema), we mean a specific word from the Lord that applies it to us individually. No true rhema spoken by a present-day prophet will be in conflict with the spirit and context of the Logos. The Logos is like a well of water, and the rhema is a bucket of water from that well. The Logos is like an entire piano, and the rhema is one note sounding forth from it. The Logos is like the whole human body, and the rhema is one of that body's members performing a particular function. The rhema is always dependent on the Logos: The body can continue to survive without certain members, but no member can survive without the body. *
endtimes 13.08.08 - 09:56pm
Rhema in Greek also means THE WORD, but with a difference, whereas LOGOS means the whole concept or idea? RHEMA means a SPECIFIC SPOKEN WORD OF GOD. For the sword to be effective, that is, for the SPOKEN WORD to be effective, it must come out of the BELT, or the WORD OF GOD, the LOGOS, the TRUTH. It means, the word that comes in a particular situation as a revelation which is spoken. *
endtimes 13.08.08 - 10:02pm
The RHEMA 
is drawn out of the LOGOS(TheWord, belt of truth). Rhema will never contradict LOGOS. Rhema refers to the word that God speaks to an individual in a particular situation. It implies INSTRUCTIONS RECEIVED by way of direction or wisdom. It also requires intimacy and sensitivity to the voice of God. *
endtimes 13.08.08 - 10:09pm
Christianity was called THE GREAT CONFESSION in its early days. The Greek for confession is hmoLOGOS which means to be in AGREEMENT WITH THE WORD OF GOD IN WORD AND ACTION. Its also translated PRAISE. Confessing the lordship of Jesus is praising the Lord Jesus. *
talkmore 13.08.08 - 10:09pm
We all must thank God for the Logos, which is the standard of all truth. But we should also be grateful for the rhema, wich provides the precise word needed for the specific situation. All Christians must live by the Logos and receive the rhema as needed. *
talkmore 13.08.08 - 10:13pm
Halelujah!! endtime!! *
endtimes 13.08.08 - 10:14pm
hmologeo literally means SPEAKING THE SAME AS THE WORD OF GOD. It means to have a public confession. that is identical to what God says. LET US HOLD FAST TO OUR CONFESSION... (Heb 4:14; Heb 10:23) *
endtimes 13.08.08 - 10:19pm
Talkmore, thank you for this great topic, there is so much more that we can say on this, i will give input from time to time. God bless you! *
festus36 14.08.08 - 07:32am
Wow! I did'nt know we have such exciting, expository teachers in this forum. Tank God 4 rider13, seastarr, endtimes, talkmore and now oye50. Tank u all. Talkmore & endtimes tanks. And when u finally find d LOGOS and store it in ur heart, dont let it depart from ur lips (RHEMA), its d solution to every confronting problem: its d prevailing WORD. Its said in Ephesus: So mightily grew the word (RHEMA) of God and prevailed. Acts 19:20. *
talkmore 15.08.08 - 08:31am
Personal Prophecy Defined. Given this distinction between the Logos and the rhema, we can now define a personal prophecy. When we use this term, we mean God's revelation of His thoughts and intents to a particular person, family, or group of people. lt is special information coming from the mind of God for a specific situation, an inspired word directed to a certain audience. *
seastarr 15.08.08 - 09:14am
As we study this we find that rhema refers to word that is spoken and means utterance. A rhema is a verse or a portion of scripture that the Holy Spirit brings to our attention with application to a current situation or need for direction in our lives. (Tim. 3:11) It is the Holy Spirit who illuminates particular scripture for application in our daily walk with the Lord. When God gives rhema it is often confirmed by 2nd rhema. *
seastarr 15.08.08 - 09:20am
This is a great topic. Thank each of you for this excellent teaching. God bless you. 
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talkmore 15.08.08 - 10:23am
PERSONAL PROPHECY AND RHEMA. In the broad sense, then personal prophecy is a rhema: God's Word individually applied, a word wich is subordinate to the Logos. This more specific revelation of God's will for our individual live may come by many ways. A rhema may come while reading the Bible, as God quickens a certain text, or it may come to us through the spoken words of another person. *
saymore1 15.08.08 - 12:15pm
Thank u Talkmore abt this topic: PERSONAL PROPHECY SPOKEN-- RHEMA INWARD REVELATION. We will normally use the term personal prophecy, however, in a more narrow sense in order to distinguish between divine communications which come straight to us from God and those wich come through another human vessel. Personal prophecy is what we will call an individual word coming to someone through another human being. Rhema is what we will call a word communicated directly by God. This will help us avoid the misunderstanding that we are endorsing the rather dangerous the practice of some people who give themselves (personal prophecies). *
festus36 20.08.08 - 04:16pm
Tank u talkmore and endtimes. I have been blessed tremendously. *
